What a good question! The red side is most often fished up, that is, the hook goes through the white side and out the red, making the red side presented up. Why? Well... The theory is that the red is seen from above, where the white would be invisable in a whitewater surf. This does not preclude the fact that the jig wiggles, showing both sides as it climbs and dives in the rip. I have fished all red pork, which works fine. This is hard to come by and in my case, is often the result of rinds degrading in the preservative, which is, ironicly, embalming fluid. Some fellows swear by all white, some yellow.
To be honest, it is all about confidence in your presentation. You must be set to the belief that what you are throwing will hook fish.
Hey Paul - I fish sand beaches mostly west of M.. Do fine with smaller fish and teeners.. Landed a 25lbs 2x.. What can I throw to land 30#+ fish? Besides bait. Thanks in advance!
I've noticed on a few Videos that you write some music. I liked that open tuned bottleneck piece on the MTK documentary. Tell us about your musical persuits.... Thanks, Craig
Craig, I was a blues guitarist for 30 years, at one time as a professional. When I cut off my fingers in a work related accident, that was the end of that. I now sing classical music in the Choral Society of the Hamptons as a bass. I find this very rewarding.
Well, A tin resembles a small bait like a spearing or sand eel. A tin casts a mile so you can reach the fish. A tin stays near the bottom, where the big fish eat. Kastmaster, Hopkins, AVA-27 will all work, if they match the bait. Use a tin when it is too windy to reach the fish. Tins are a no-brainer; cast it and reel it in without loosing it!
I find that if I leave them in the sun, it takes about 3 days.... Joel- I think you have mistaken me for an Ichthyologist, which I am far from. The best explaination I have for you is that these fish hunt predominently over the sand beaches, thus their lighter color. Some say they come from the Cape, I have never seen a cow bass with the lighter reddish stripes, only up to about 15 lbs.
Paul, nice blog.My question mention red pork rind. I have been using green and have been fairly succesful. Does tide and time of day play a part in the choice of color? ftw1953@yahoo.com
I have been using bucks for 30 years, they are by far the best jig out there. There are books written about how to use a bucktail out there. Life is not so scientific... All you need is practice and confidence to be sucessful. It is my opinion that the only thing that is making your green color sucessful is your confidence in it. Fish see contrasts of black and white- not in color. I don't believe it matters a hoot what color porkrind you have on, what matters is the weight of the bucktail. The bucktail should swim freely in the rip and move with the tide. It should be heavy enough to sink to the bottom, but still work- wiggle and jump. So- stick with whatever color you prefer, or buy one of those $18.98 paperbacks and absorb, like an amoeba.
paul, great site!! tons of useful information. have you ever thought of teaching an advanced or even beginner surfcasting class or seminar? thanks! -luke
West winds are not the "Grim Reaper" in Montauk. It blows west all summer, when we have our biggest fish on the beach. In the Fall, we want NE winds, brought on by a storm (Kinda like what is commin' in the next few days...)because this blows baitfish from the rips onto the beaches of the north side and lighthouse. Classicly, West winds portend good (mild) weather in Montauk and Long Island, keeping the larger fish off shore with the bait. There will be fish on the beach in Montauk for the rest of the migration, they may not be big, but they will be plentiful...
The sequence is as follows, the bait comes in, the fish follow it, you catch the fish. The fish are MIGRATING, they are not eating any particular bait. If you need an answer-spearing, they are eating spearing from May 15- June 23rd at 3 pm... if the moon is waxing... and the tide is in stage 3...
hey paul, we all know big bass love white water. In your expert opinion, is there ever a time when there is too much white water? Also, do big bass move to deeper water when the waves become too big? For example, they are calling for 10-15 ft waves by sat......
Yes there are ties when there is too much whitewater. When you get picked up by a wave and thrown twenty yards while standing at the top of the lighthouse abaitment- there is too much whitewater... When the bluffs are loosing a foot an hour- there is too much whitewater...when the sand under your trcuk turns to a foamy mush- there is too much whitewater... Bass love the stuff. They will eat stones to stay balanced in it. PS- they swim reaallyy good... The trick is to be there when you can get a jig to work, and when the fish can see it. During the last storm (think conditions as discribed above) there were bass rolling iin the rocks under the light. They would eat nothing- they couldn't see it.
Anonymous said... C'mon Paul, The first moments that skishing was born and the current dragged you off of your rock and out into the ocean, you WERE pissing your wetsuit, right?????
On a serious note, what kind of safety precautions do you take? Hoping to meet you during the looming fall run.
You must understand, Mick, that I have been certified insane. Crazy people are fearless, that is what makes them crazy- a conundrum, no? If you saw Nat Geo, that was a re-inactment, a bad re-inactment.. No, I had been swept out to sea so many times in the past that it was old hat by then. Concerned, maybe; not frightened. There was no urine involved. If I had gotten a scareded, I would have pannacked and I would now be room temperature with worms tickling my toes.. Safety is handled by a thick wetsuit, flippers and a big knife. A compass helps when the fog rolls in.
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HI Paul-
When tossing a white buck with red rind, do you fish red up or down? Reason?
Thx
What a good question! The red side is most often fished up, that is, the hook goes through the white side and out the red, making the red side presented up. Why? Well... The theory is that the red is seen from above, where the white would be invisable in a whitewater surf. This does not preclude the fact that the jig wiggles, showing both sides as it climbs and dives in the rip. I have fished all red pork, which works fine. This is hard to come by and in my case, is often the result of rinds degrading in the preservative, which is, ironicly, embalming fluid. Some fellows swear by all white, some yellow.
To be honest, it is all about confidence in your presentation. You must be set to the belief that what you are throwing will hook fish.
Hey Paul -
I fish sand beaches mostly west of M.. Do fine with smaller fish and teeners..
Landed a 25lbs 2x.. What can I throw to land 30#+ fish?
Besides bait. Thanks in advance!
Dwight, There is no magic gizmo to hook a big fish. The way to do it is to be persistant. The more you fish, the better the odds.
Bucktails catch many, many trophy bass from the sand. Many cows were caught on hopkins tube tins this spring in M.
Hi Paul-
I've noticed on a few Videos that you write some music. I liked that open tuned bottleneck piece on the MTK documentary.
Tell us about your musical persuits....
Thanks,
Craig
Craig, I was a blues guitarist for 30 years, at one time as a professional. When I cut off my fingers in a work related accident, that was the end of that. I now sing classical music in the Choral Society of the Hamptons as a bass. I find this very rewarding.
What Tin and why? With so many choices can you give up some secrets on tin styles and when to use what?
Well, A tin resembles a small bait like a spearing or sand eel. A tin casts a mile so you can reach the fish. A tin stays near the bottom, where the big fish eat. Kastmaster, Hopkins, AVA-27 will all work, if they match the bait. Use a tin when it is too windy to reach the fish. Tins are a no-brainer; cast it and reel it in without loosing it!
Along the sand beaches I've been catching bass with pale back coloration. I think some refer to them as "ghost fish".
How long does it take for a bass to change it's color?
Thanks.
I find that if I leave them in the sun, it takes about 3 days.... Joel- I think you have mistaken me for an Ichthyologist, which I am far from. The best explaination I have for you is that these fish hunt predominently over the sand beaches, thus their lighter color. Some say they come from the Cape, I have never seen a cow bass with the lighter reddish stripes, only up to about 15 lbs.
Paul, nice blog.My question mention red pork rind. I have been using green and have been fairly succesful. Does tide and time of day play a part in the choice of color?
ftw1953@yahoo.com
I have been using bucks for 30 years, they are by far the best jig out there. There are books written about how to use a bucktail out there. Life is not so scientific... All you need is practice and confidence to be sucessful. It is my opinion that the only thing that is making your green color sucessful is your confidence in it. Fish see contrasts of black and white- not in color. I don't believe it matters a hoot what color porkrind you have on, what matters is the weight of the bucktail. The bucktail should swim freely in the rip and move with the tide. It should be heavy enough to sink to the bottom, but still work- wiggle and jump. So- stick with whatever color you prefer, or buy one of those $18.98 paperbacks and absorb, like an amoeba.
paul,
great site!! tons of useful information. have you ever thought of teaching an advanced or even beginner surfcasting class or seminar?
thanks!
-luke
Luke, Thanks for the attaboy. Yes, I often do seminars during the winter months.
hey paul,
why are west winds the kiss of death out in montauk?
West winds are not the "Grim Reaper" in Montauk. It blows west all summer, when we have our biggest fish on the beach. In the Fall, we want NE winds, brought on by a storm (Kinda like what is commin' in the next few days...)because this blows baitfish from the rips onto the beaches of the north side and lighthouse. Classicly, West winds portend good (mild) weather in Montauk and Long Island, keeping the larger fish off shore with the bait. There will be fish on the beach in Montauk for the rest of the migration, they may not be big, but they will be plentiful...
I've read alot about fall bait migrations in Montauk.
Spring. . not so much.
What kind of bait sequences are typical in Montauk say from May into July?
Thanks for your input.
The sequence is as follows, the bait comes in, the fish follow it, you catch the fish.
The fish are MIGRATING, they are not eating any particular bait. If you need an answer-spearing, they are eating spearing from May 15- June 23rd at 3 pm... if the moon is waxing... and the tide is in stage 3...
hey paul,
we all know big bass love white water. In your expert opinion, is there ever a time when there is too much white water? Also, do big bass move to deeper water when the waves become too big? For example, they are calling for 10-15 ft waves by sat......
Yes there are ties when there is too much whitewater. When you get picked up by a wave and thrown twenty yards while standing at the top of the lighthouse abaitment- there is too much whitewater... When the bluffs are loosing a foot an hour- there is too much whitewater...when the sand under your trcuk turns to a foamy mush- there is too much whitewater...
Bass love the stuff. They will eat stones to stay balanced in it. PS- they swim reaallyy good...
The trick is to be there when you can get a jig to work, and when the fish can see it. During the last storm (think conditions as discribed above) there were bass rolling iin the rocks under the light. They would eat nothing- they couldn't see it.
Anonymous said...
C'mon Paul, The first moments that skishing was born and the current dragged you off of your rock and out into the ocean, you WERE pissing your wetsuit, right?????
On a serious note, what kind of safety precautions do you take? Hoping to meet you during the looming fall run.
Mick2360
You must understand, Mick, that I have been certified insane. Crazy people are fearless, that is what makes them crazy- a conundrum, no?
If you saw Nat Geo, that was a re-inactment, a bad re-inactment.. No, I had been swept out to sea so many times in the past that it was old hat by then. Concerned, maybe; not frightened. There was no urine involved. If I had gotten a scareded, I would have pannacked and I would now be room temperature with worms tickling my toes..
Safety is handled by a thick wetsuit, flippers and a big knife. A compass helps when the fog rolls in.
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